{"id":21342,"date":"2026-03-06T06:56:07","date_gmt":"2026-03-06T06:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nationalgunowner.org\/index.php\/2026\/03\/06\/nine-kids-thats-fine-but-theres-one-thing-the-debate-is-missing\/"},"modified":"2026-03-06T06:56:07","modified_gmt":"2026-03-06T06:56:07","slug":"nine-kids-thats-fine-but-theres-one-thing-the-debate-is-missing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nationalgunowner.org\/index.php\/2026\/03\/06\/nine-kids-thats-fine-but-theres-one-thing-the-debate-is-missing\/","title":{"rendered":"Nine Kids? That\u2019s Fine \u2014 But There\u2019s One Thing The Debate Is Missing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div style=\"position:relative\" data-narration-container=\"true\">\n<p><em>This article is part of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/introducing-upstream-a-lifestyle-and-culture-section-of-the-daily-wire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Upstream,<\/a>\u00a0The Daily Wire\u2019s new home for culture and lifestyle. Real human insight and human stories \u2014 from our featured writers to you.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Conservatives have a lot of opinions on how many children a woman should have. But, if they really cared about increasing the birth rate, perhaps they wouldn\u2019t.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">This week, Hannah Neeleman caused a stir after announcing she was having her ninth child. Dubbed \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/magazines\/the-sunday-times-magazine\/article\/meet-the-queen-of-the-trad-wives-and-her-eight-children-plfr50cgk?gaa_at=eafs&amp;gaa_n=AWEtsqcIWiomL9m6qEpeJqI0-L-Y4eUtFrKd1z-kaPqT1lmL-Q1POKloXT3ocfezY3Q%3D&amp;gaa_ts=69a79562&amp;gaa_sig=RXICRL1HgipIN974mMksBv3HDXm8U_orOlf-radgwXjYxFWjYvJvREPmMuMsyiHn_6WfDSFjSnbOg95qt9CXeA%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">queen of the \u2018trad wives,<\/a>\u201d <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Neeleman creates content of her family\u2019s life running a beautiful farm for her more than 10 million Instagram followers. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">A viral <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rebeccacnreid\/status\/2028157735892631620?s=46&amp;t=ZAoIkqhiKpZyQayFV_2XbQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tweet<\/a> responding to Neeleman\u2019s announcement of her ninth baby questioned if two parents could give nine children the love and connection they need.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Conservatives rightly rushed to her defense \u2014 after all, in an age where children are no longer valued, this gorgeous former ballerina is spending her millions raising a big family, and that\u2019s something to celebrate.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat the heck do you know about having 9 kids?\u201d American Principles Project President <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/author\/terry-schilling\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Terry Schilling<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/schilling1776\/status\/2028495979838591475\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">asked<\/a>. \u201cYou should talk to a big family or a kid from a big family about their experience. You really get a lot more attention in a big family than a small one. And kids from big families are way more stable and less anxious than kids who need everything to be perfect for them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But just because the <span style=\"font-weight:400\">Neeleman family has the desire and resources requisite for nine kids, that <\/span>doesn\u2019t mean everyone needs to have enough children to fill a baseball field.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Simple math provides the basis of the viral question: The more children two parents have to care for, the less time they have to spend individually with each child. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Sociologists call this <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">resource dilution, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">which <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/11413873\/#:~:text=The%20resource%20dilution%20model%20suggests%20that%20parental,the%20effect%20of%20siblings%20on%20intellectual%20development.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\">one study<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:400\"> described as an acknowledgement that \u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">parental resources are finite and that as the number of children in the family increases, the resources accrued by any one child necessarily decline.\u201d <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">I\u2019m not suggesting <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">there are only negatives to having a big family; the internet is filled with testimonies of their joys. But, like most things in life, having a big family brings pros and cons. This used to be something conservatives were allowed to <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/ifstudies.org\/blog\/for-kids-large-families-have-pros-and-cons\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\">talk about<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:400\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">The suggestion that big families might have <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400\">any<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400\"> downsides drew the sharp ire of <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">conservatives and pro-birth pronatalists alike, who wholeheartedly defended big families, with some seemingly expressing contempt for smaller ones. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you had a large family like mine, you would know that plenty of time without the searching eyes and drilling attention of the mother of two is one of the best thing you can give your children,\u201d doctor and writer Grazie Pozo Christie <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/gchristiemd\/status\/2028499223763620256?s=46&amp;t=ZAoIkqhiKpZyQayFV_2XbQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said<\/a>. \u201cOh and siblings! Don\u2019t forget about the incalculable blessing of siblings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>An account called Meta Trav was more direct in its criticism of small families, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/meta_trav\/status\/2028590350844207293?s=46&amp;t=ZAoIkqhiKpZyQayFV_2XbQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tweeting<\/a>, \u201cThe modern obsession with \u2018adequate time and attention\u2019 per child is a broken framework. Two parents hovering over one or two kids produces anxious, poorly socialized children who never had to negotiate with a real peer group.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">This response makes sense when you understand that a certain branch of the pronatalist movement views having many children not only as an example of peak womanhood but also as an example of good morality. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Many parts of the conservative movement have adopted this messaging. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Y<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">ou\u2019ve probably heard someone telling young people to get married and have more kids than they can afford, while saying next to nothing about the stress and finances <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">needed to raise a large family.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Big families are a luxury good, particularly if you can afford a large family on one income.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">The average yearly cost to raise a child in America <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/smartasset.com\/data-studies\/cost-raise-child-state-2025\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\">grew<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:400\"> to $<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">27,743 in 2025. That\u2019s $83,229 a year to support three kids or $249,687 to support nine children.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Estimates show the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.census.gov\/library\/stories\/2025\/09\/median-household-income.html#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Current%20Population%20Survey's%202025,by%205.5%25%20*%20**Black**%20Decreased%20by%203.3%25\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\">median<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:400\"> American household income is around $84,000.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">While I\u2019ve seen conservatives brush off the financial concerns that affect family formation, the real-world consequences of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/34504382\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\">financial stress<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:400\">, such as marital instability and health deterioration, can be devastating.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Neeleman not only runs a very successful business but is also the daughter-in-law of a multi-millionaire and, foreseeably, has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ballerina-farm-controversy-rustic-videos-family-wealth-critique-tiktok-2024-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">access to resources<\/a> of which most middle-class families could only dream. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Being able to afford family support, such as nannies and house cleaners, can make having a large family seem easy.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">I have yet to see an online influencer with a big family delivering pronatalist messaging share her monthly income, her extended family support, and the number of full-time nannies she employs. This information would be helpful to young people wanting to achieve a big family.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Building a family isn\u2019t simply about birthing children. It\u2019s about parenting well and raising adults who will, one day, parent their own children well. That\u2019s how you create a generational legacy.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">If you have the familial, emotional, and financial resources to provide for and parent nine kids, that\u2019s incredible. Go for it! Every one of those nine children will be a blessing to your family. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">But not everyone is equipped or called to have nine kids. And the number of children you have, whether it\u2019s zero or nine, isn\u2019t a reflection of your morality. It\u2019s a personal calling between you, your spouse, and God \u2014 not the internet.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">I would strongly advise young people to take advice on family formation from parents, family, and mentors \u2014 the people who will help raise and support your children \u2014 rather than online influencers.\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">The conservative movement is doing young families, in particular young women, a great disservice by pushing a message that having and caring for many children is easy and blissful.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Real motherhood isn\u2019t a beautifully curated online fantasy.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Being a mom, particularly a new mom, is hard. Experiencing sleepless nights and huge hormonal shifts while small people depend on you to meet their every need is no small task. And the identity shift \u2014 learning to completely center your world around the needs of a baby \u2014 is a lesson in servanthood for which no one can prepare you.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">The message I tell my own daughter is that, if she is blessed to become a mother, raising kids will be the hardest but best thing she will ever do. And I will do everything in my power to support her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Conservatives need to understand that normal, middle-class young women who are scared of having kids or struggling with young motherhood need encouragement and support \u2014 not scolding about how many children they should have. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400\">Offering to babysit regularly for a struggling young mom will be much more effective in helping her grow her family than telling her why she should have more kids. <\/span>We are all tired of that anyway.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>The views expressed in this piece are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The Daily Wire.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/nine-kids-thats-fine-but-theres-one-thing-the-debate-is-missing\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This article is part of\u00a0Upstream,\u00a0The Daily Wire\u2019s new home for culture and lifestyle. 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